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UPDATE 8:00am PST: Very sad news: the Copenhagen Zoo killed Marius, a 2-year-old giraffe, and fed his remains to lions on Sunday, ignoring a petition signed by thousands of people and offers from other zoos and a private individual to save the animal, officials said.

The zoo said it acted to avoid inbreeding among its giraffes in keeping with recommendations by a European association.

Marius, a healthy male, was put down using a bolt pistol, said zoo spokesman Tobias Stenbaek Bro. Visitors, including children, were invited to watch while the giraffe was then skinned and fed to the lions.

Marius’ plight triggered a wave of online protests and renewed debate about the conditions of zoo animals. Before the giraffe was killed, the online petition to save it had received more than 20,000 signatures.

Stenbaek Bro said the zoo, which now has seven giraffes left, was recommended to put down Marius by the European Association of Zoos and Aquaria because there already were a lot of giraffes with similar genes in the organization’s breeding program.

The carcass of Marius, a male giraffe, is eaten by lions after he was put down in Copenhagen Zoo on Sunday, Feb. 9, 2014. Copenhagen Zoo turned down offers from other zoos and 500,000 euros ($680,000) from a private individual to save the life of a healthy giraffe before killing and slaughtering it Sunday to follow inbreeding recommendations made by a European association. The 2-year-old male giraffe, named Marius, was put down using a bolt pistol and its meat will be fed to carnivores at the zoo, spokesman Tobias Stenbaek Bro said. Visitors, including children, were invited to watch while the giraffe was dissected. (AP Photo/POLFOTO, Rasmus Flindt Pedersen)
The carcass of Marius, a male giraffe, is eaten by lions after he was put down in Copenhagen Zoo on Sunday, Feb. 9, 2014. Copenhagen Zoo turned down offers from other zoos and 500,000 euros ($680,000) from a private individual to save the life of a healthy giraffe before killing and slaughtering it Sunday to follow inbreeding recommendations made by a European association. The 2-year-old male giraffe, named Marius, was put down using a bolt pistol and its meat will be fed to carnivores at the zoo, spokesman Tobias Stenbaek Bro said. Visitors, including children, were invited to watch while the giraffe was dissected. (AP Photo/POLFOTO, Rasmus Flindt Pedersen)

 

He said his zoo had turned down offers from other zoos to take Marius and an offer from a private individual who wanted to buy the giraffe for 500,000 euros ($680,000).

Stenbaek Bro said a significant part of EAZA membership is that the zoos don’t own the animals themselves, but govern them, and therefore can’t sell them to anyone outside the organization that doesn’t follow the same set of rules.

He also said that it is essential that the breeding programs work correctly.

The zoo’s scientific director, Bengt Holst, said the giraffe breeding program is similar to those used in deer parks, where red deer and fallow deer are culled to keep populations healthy.

“The most important factor must be that the animals are healthy physically and behaviorally and that they have a good life while they are living whether this life is long or short. This is something that Copenhagen Zoo believes strongly in,” he said in a statement.

Holst said the zoo doesn’t give the giraffes contraceptives because they have “a number of unwanted side effects on the internal organs” and the zoo believes parental care is an important part of the animal’s natural behavior.

The organization Animal Rights Sweden said the case simply highlights what they believe zoos do to animals regularly.

“It is no secret that animals are killed when there is no longer space, or if the animals don’t have genes that are interesting enough,” the organization said in a statement. “The only way to stop this is to not visit zoos.”

It pointed out some zoos work to preserve species of animals, but never individual ones.

“When the cute animal babies that attract visitors grow up they are not as interesting anymore,” it said.

The carcass of Marius, a male giraffe, is eaten by lions after he was put down in Copenhagen Zoo on Sunday, Feb. 9, 2014. Copenhagen Zoo turned down offers from other zoos and 500,000 euros ($680,000) from a private individual to save the life of a healthy giraffe before killing and slaughtering it Sunday to follow inbreeding recommendations made by a European association. The 2-year-old male giraffe, named Marius, was put down using a bolt pistol and its meat will be fed to carnivores at the zoo, spokesman Tobias Stenbaek Bro said. Visitors, including children, were invited to watch while the giraffe was dissected. (AP Photo/POLFOTO, Rasmus Flindt Pedersen)
Children watch as Marius, a male giraffe, is dissected, at the Copenhagen Zoo, in Denmark, Sunday, Feb. 9, 2014. Copenhagen Zoo turned down offers from other zoos and 500,000 euros ($680,000) from a private individual to save the life of a healthy giraffe before killing and slaughtering it Sunday to follow inbreeding recommendations made by a European association. The 2-year-old male giraffe, named Marius, was put down using a bolt pistol and its meat will be fed to carnivores at the zoo, spokesman Tobias Stenbaek Bro said. Visitors, including children, were invited to watch while the giraffe was dissected.

 

Original Post Feb 8th: A giraffe called Marius is in serious danger of being executed at the Copenhagen Zoo.

His last meal is less than twenty-four hours away. Marius is healthy and just 18 months old.

According to the zoo’s scientific director, Bengt Holst, Marius’ impending death will protect the rest of their giraffe population from inbreeding. Thanks to European laws, he says, Marius  must be euthanized before he comes of age and attempts to mate.

Attempts to find the young giraffe a new home have been unsuccessful, says the director. However, Yorkshire Wildlife Park (YWP) near Doncaster, England, said it had contacted Copenhagen Zoo after reading about Marius’s story on the BBC.

The YWP has offered to give Marius a home, but there still hasn’t been a response from the zoo.

Marius is facing death by bolt gun. The zoo plans to use his meat to feed carnivorous zoo animals, and a lethal injection would contaminate the potential feed.

But before the majestic animal’s body is fed to the (literal) tigers, it will be dissected and studied.

This practice of “keeping the population genetically sound” sure doesn’t seem like a kindness to us – either for Marius or for the other giraffes.

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366 comments
CHOWLOVER
CHOWLOVER

Faroe Islands... These people are mentally ill. May their well deserved karma find them sooner than later.

Ticked Off Tilly
Ticked Off Tilly

What - and miss the beastiality 'parlors,' and joining the crowd at the Faroe Islands for their annual dolphin romp where hundreds of the beautiful animals are trapped in a cove and hacked to death until the sea runs red with their blood?  So much for the land of Hans Christian Andersen...

crackerpaddy
crackerpaddy

Danes are garbage. Sick. I'll never visit and always remember.

AnaMorris
AnaMorris

I will never forget this murder. Yes Danes, we know that USA eats chickens, and there is cruelty in every country. Why don't you stand up against this disgusting murder and child abuse. I have never in my 30 years as an animal activist seen such a cold blooded act.


For a zoo keeper to take a baby animal born in his care and to execute him, then cut him up in front of kids and feed him to the lions is both child and animal abuse. In my world Bengt Holst would be shot at dawn.


If the reason is inbreeding, on that logic all Danes would be destroyed.


Holst admits to killing at least 20 antelopes per year, bears and wolves and more. Is this a zoo or a concentration camp.


Darling Marius, we will keep your memory alive. We will fight for justice for you, and the closure of all zoos worldwide in your name.

Ingrid Threet
Ingrid Threet

xoy,xoy: There really isn't any differences between "human" infants and "animal" infants in that they both occupy space and breathe oxygen. The big difference, though, is that the "human" infants mature to be shits like the Zoo Director at the Copenhagen Zoo, do not "give back" to our beautiful world, and are basically "parasites". I am very educated, big deal, but I must say I am sick of having to share my oxygen with a bunch of low life people. If people would not interfere with the animal world, and how it was created to function, you wouldn't have the need to kill a young (and I stress young...would we kill our young?) animal. Funny, Humans are overpopulated, and yet we don't dispose of them. Narcissistic.

DonnaPaden
DonnaPaden

They should have had to eat the Zeabra cause you should eat what you kill.

DawnOfGood_07
DawnOfGood_07

This is scary...

It is one thing that there is lot of pain in the world but when someone or an organisation deliberately adds to it when it is not necessary or preventable that is insane!

Good people at least try to do something to make the world a better place and not the opposite.

connoa
connoa

Bengt Holst is a good Nazi, he is just following orders! The Fuhrer would be proud of him. He turns down a very generous offer to sell Marius to an outside wildlife park , for 500K euros,just for the thrill of the kill;fresh blood spilled. What else can this monster be but another Josef Mengele, the infamous Nazi doctor. Are the rest of the Danes supporting him?

elephantlovers
elephantlovers

Nothing like desensitizing kids to murder. Maybe now people will realize that all zoos do this to the young and old who serve no purpose. Maybe now people will realize that all zoos lie to the public about how "caring" they are. What they care about is ticket sales, and sales alone.

AnaMorris
AnaMorris

Orders vich must be obeyed at all times!!


The crappy excuses given by the Danish people who entered the petition site made me throw up. This innocent baby raised in the horrible conditions of the Copenhagen zoo, did not even get a chance. Murdered then cut up in front of kids. His poor mama knows what they did, she is brokenhearted.  How dare they speak of inbreeding when they themselves are inbred.  In all my years fighting to free  animals, have I seen an act as barbaric  as this cold blooded execution.


I fight the dolphin murderes in Japan, and they can be arrogant, but nothing compares to the people from Denmark who came insulting the baby and us, and still wont shut their mouths.


There were so many alternatives, but Brengt Holst has found a way to attract visitors to  his hell hole, and to get some free lion food.


Some cold hearted beeatch in here said its emotional. Well duh!! I wear my emotions like a crown. The Danish people I have met this week scoff at emotions. Well guess their stone cold hearts will warm up when they are rotting in HELL! Which of course they don't believe in. Any mention of God sent them in to reels of laughter.


Whether they believe it or not, there will be cosmic justice if we don't get any from the courts. As Denmark have animal brothels in their Cities, where animals are tied down and raped, I am sure we will get no justice.


As a vegan I fight for every specie, against slaughterhouse,vivisection, etc. but the face of that sweet giraffe haunts my sleep. BRENGT HOLST IS GUILTY OF MURDER of his trusting charge. NO MERCY!!

Shurtlel2
Shurtlel2

Don't even bother answering this xoyxoy person, he is obviously the kind that has nothing better to do with his life than sit behind a computer and try to get people up in arms.  He would probably say the world is flat is that could get people to talk to him.  Very sad person.  There are people in this world who have no compassion, no caring and will do anything to get attention.  Wouldn't waste anymore time considering he is the ONLY 1 trying to defend what was done. 

xoyxoy
xoyxoy

Sorry, I must be completely stupid for missing the point. Who gives a crap about one freaking giraffe. It's the mental capacity of the average individual who has been charmed by the practicalities of the mundane that feels so passionate about this isolated incident. Do you have any idea how many human babies died of starvation during the killing of this animal (who I agree should not been done in public display)? There are far more important issues in the world that seem to be taking a backseat because of spectacles like this one. People are either brainwashed, afraid or just plain uncaring. There should be an uproar constantly happening until we can fix the broken human conditions around our very own neighborhoods, mush less the world. Get a life!!!

Ticked Off Tilly
Ticked Off Tilly

@crackerpaddy - What?!  And miss the beastiality 'parlors,' and the annual romp in the Faroe Islands when hundreds of dolphins are trapped in a cove and hacked to death until the sea runs red with their blood?  So much for the land of Hans Christian Anderson...


mirmurakandur
mirmurakandur

@AnaMorris You're absolutely right. Why do anybody not start a campaign to collect signs to remove the director and his staff who were agree with this killing? I cannot do that because English is not my first language.


DawnOfGood_07
DawnOfGood_07

I agree with you. This should never ever happen again. Enough fo ignorance, trying to justify evilm greed and stupidity. I pray for a better world!

AnaMorris
AnaMorris

@Ingrid Threet   If defective genes was a reason for this horrendous crime, then all Danes would get a bolt to the head. An inbred nation of animal brothel keepers, child and animal porn lovers, and dolphin killers for fun.

mirmurakandur
mirmurakandur

@connoa  You're absolutely right. He must resign! would be very good if somebody make a campaign to sign it up for pushing him to go away.Go to Tesco,packing items for there don't need a heart!!! He and his team are without hearts!!!! They should go away!!!! Need to choose new leadership for the Zoo,who has a loving heart for animals!!!! Where are the Locals for it??????


DawnOfGood_07
DawnOfGood_07

Well said. I agree with you. Since this thing happened, I cannot sleep it haunts me like a nightmare. This was over the top crueltym no words for it, no words.

Ticked Off Tilly
Ticked Off Tilly

@Shurtlel2 Absolutely!  There can be no discussion with someone of almost sociopathic arrogance.  However, I am total agreement with his/her first sentence in an earlier posting on this thread:  "Sorry, I must be completely stupid for missing the point."  A truer word was never spoke...

xoyxoy
xoyxoy

@Shurtlel2  And you have so MUCH more productive time to take out a few moments of your extremely busy life (and also, to have taken a while to read all the comments) to respond to an unqualified individual (whom by the way, will tell you that the universe, not earth, IS indeed flat, like perhaps your head is also)  such as myself, I am honored to be acknowledged by you. You are the epitome of a contradiction by your very shared words to make an attempt of attacking not me, rather the whole basis of this site's theme, which is to express thoughts that your liberal mind would rather have me shut up because that's how your philosophy works. Don't bully others not to take purpose of free will to reply to anyone else, that is not your concern or say. It appears YOU are the sad person for the cruelty you sense of this matter you protest. I am emotionally detached when trying to articulate meaning. I do not need, nor seek, an audience and certainly not one who is limited to unwarranted suggestions. Flee....

Shurtlel2
Shurtlel2

@xoyxoy Why are you wasting your time here if these things are so important to you?  You should be spending your time doing something and not just trashing people.  Get a life !!! 

JadeLogan21
JadeLogan21

@xoyxoy  And this is why I get so pissed off at the human race. You cannot compare human babies dying to any other tragedy. They are both equally bad. For your information, if we do not have animals humans will die off. So yes the world matters. Personally, I think we need to control our own population before we play God to another species as human population is getting so big that world cannot cope. Animal species are dying and become extinct because of our greed and people not caring. If we want to get pissed off over a giraffe being killed because certain people decided he wasn't good enough then we will. There has been other evil people who have also decided to try and be God and culled people, one was called Aldolf Hitler. So, yes I deem this as equally important. Animals have the same value of life as humans, and are 10x more important than humans who have evil tendencies. It is about humans, when deciding to have animals and breed from them that they should look after them and when they are unable to find a good home for them to go to. 

Ticked Off Tilly
Ticked Off Tilly

@Let the truth be told  @crackerpaddy Nice try... but the bestiality 'parlors' do not function in a vacuum.  In my opinion - and it is only my opinion - it is time that the honorable people of Denmark fight for decency and the other virtues you claim to stand for.

OAL2
OAL2

@Let the truth be told  @AnaMorris If the Danes don't want to be put in the same basket then where was the demonstration at the zoo against this horrific act?  Where are the picket lines like the Americans have at Sea World or in front of Laboratories where they research on animals?  I have yet to see ONE. Continuing on the lack of public outcry in Denmark, lets move on to the faroe Islands that the Danish deny having any power over yet sent THEIR Navy to arrest pacific activist who were documenting the slaughter. They seized one of the observers ships so that the killing for pleasure can continue. The DANISH navy. The abuse of animals, the fact that animal brothels still exist in your country is mind boggling.  Yes, abuse exists in other countries yet we still have to see the Danish themselves demonstrate and protest if they are truly against these horrific practices. Take a clue from those that do so in France, the U.S.A., Australia, England, etc.. Until the Danish demonstrate publicly they want this practice to stop, then the rest of us can only believe what we see. No public outcry in Denmark. 

AnaMorris
AnaMorris

@mirmurakandur @AnaMorris  There is a page on FB Close the Copenhagen Zoo. Also  "Be a voice for Marius" We are not very effective in getting rid of him, as Danes support this. Holst is also on a committee to keep animal brothels.


Imagine the horror of being in his zoo.

DawnOfGood_07
DawnOfGood_07

THAT EVIL PERSON SHOULD RESIGN ASAP. THOSE PEOPLE ARE INSANE WHO SUPPORT ME. SICK TO THE CORE.

xoyxoy
xoyxoy

@Ticked Off Tilly @Shurtlel2  Obviously, sarcasm surpasses you. Is it more stupid to reply to someone who claimed 'stupidity' in a mock sentence or more stupid who entertains it, and then agrees with the very contempt, you are an accomplice and have proven your stance to be less than wise.  

xoyxoy
xoyxoy

@Shurtlel2 @xoyxoy  How I "waste" my time or how much of it I am willing to spend, and where,  is really not of your concern. Your posted opinions in a public social media forum are as relevant as any others, and is just as fair for mine to be published.

xoyxoy
xoyxoy

@JadeLogan21 @xoyxoy  How quickly we forget humans (at one time) were at the very bottom of the food chain (before fire, before, weapons, before electricity) every "animal" of every possible species were aiming at us. Well, evolution occurred, I suppose some humans think "God" is a concept that entails being in control. I didn't make the rules, nature did. Animal extinction is a part of nature's recycling system, perhaps we, as humans who have evolved and moved to the TOP of the food chain is a part of that recycling, I don't have a problem with that. The ridiculous philosophy of some enthusiastic Greek who made the claim that animals have consciousness is exactly the trite that is OBVIOUSLY taught in colleges for some time. I don't buy into that knowledge considered academic by the liberal adjustments to religious beliefs and spiritual capacities by "scientific" conceptions. We are barbaric to the core, our reptilian complexed brain is evident of that. The giraffe was killed accordingly to the law that legislates the right to that organization. The outcry of the public is out of passion. I personally was/am opposed to the forum in which they conducted the slaughter but that is where I rest. That is all I will add to this story. It is exhausting and my intention is not to convince anyone of anything. Your opinion is as relevant as mine. I stick to the law which if it is inadequate, perhaps that should be revisited.

DawnOfGood_07
DawnOfGood_07

I meant those people are sick who support him..

DawnOfGood_07
DawnOfGood_07

Diagusting they are, absolutely disgusting. Do they really think that the world is going to buy their story and justification of this cruel thing? It will never happen. All Zoos need to be closed !

xoyxoy
xoyxoy

@JadeLogan21 @xoyxoy @Ticked Off Tilly  Sorry if I touched a nerve, my intention was/is not to start a tag war. I have exhausted my accommodated time on this issue, besides, the animal is currently being digested by the lions. I would see the point more clearly if they were killing giraffes or other undomesticated animals on a regular basis to feed the other captives. Good luck in your animal rights advocacy. SIDENOTE: There was no cruelty in this particular case, in my opinion. Cruelty would involve a callous act causing pain and suffering.

JadeLogan21
JadeLogan21

@xoyxoy @JadeLogan21 @Ticked Off Tilly  Okay, you say one thing. I answer it and then just because what I am saying is right you twist what you say and go on about something else! You said about not talking about culture, yet you mentioned and brought it up. Be more specific. Culture comes into everything and nobody will truly be happy with whatever the laws and society says. Thats life. However if we are not happy with something we can try and change it. How is what has been said to do with fear and guilt? There was protests before he was killed, hence 2 rehoming possibilities. The reason everyone is pissed off is that they had options (ones that could work) and they didn't try them. They had no excuse to kill this young animal. What is the point of breeding an animal when you know you can't breed from the baby due to genetics and in the end it is going to be killed. All they thought about is money, how this cute baby giraffe is going to bring in people and then when it grows up BOOM! They kill it. This is why everyone is pissed. It says something about the systems in zoos and how things need to be changed. We are allowed to care about animals, people, what ever and whoever we want to care about. It is our choice. If you do not like it, then its your problem. Do not criticise us for it. You have shown more bullying behaviour than we have.

xoyxoy
xoyxoy

@JadeLogan21 @xoyxoy @Ticked Off Tilly  EXACTLY...but I'm not speaking of cultural injustices, we all have those, that's what laws are for. What is happening here is Conservation Biology. It is the science dealing in biodiversity. It is specific science in genes, species and ecosystems. Since most have no idea what this entails, they have no idea what they are protesting. I am not convince the killing and dissection of the animal in public was handled correctly, but that is besides the point (for me).  Regardless how we feel about humans eating habits, there is a ecology that balances nature's progression. I'm not about to start a tirade about right and wrong, although both sides can and do have their valid points. There an abundant amount of cruelty in the world on all kinds of levels. People have a right to express objection. I feel what is being expressed is fear and guilt on a more subconscious measure.

JadeLogan21
JadeLogan21

@xoyxoy @JadeLogan21 @Ticked Off Tilly  Tradition is not always right though and should not be used as an excuse for animal abuse. If you will not say something due to culture then you are as bad as them. Everyone has the right to say something about a culture if they are doing something wrong, e.g. anti gay laws in Russia, slaughtering dolphins inhumanely in Japan, skinning animals alive in China, killing dogs while purposely beating before for meat, being forced to marry your rapist in certain parts of the world, female genetalia mutilation in other parts, etc. These issues should be addressed whether or not it includes another culture. People have a right to try and change that. You go on about human babies dying and broken human conditions, yet you do not realise to help stop that you are going against certain cultures. Just because something is legal now and thought to be now, doesnt mean it is right and should not be changed.

xoyxoy
xoyxoy

@JadeLogan21 @xoyxoy @Ticked Off Tilly  On the issue of "moral" I stand down. Tradition has always trumped that and I do not dare judge another culture. That is a whole separate topic. When I stated herbivores I was sarcastically including vegetarians. I have never supported zoos or circuses for that matter. But there is more than we know here about this issue. This is not a run-of-the-mill institution. Their priorities may not be inclined with "moral" judgements. How do you fire an employee that's been with the company for over 20 years when you cannot afford to pay them (kind of issue here)? Laws are made solely for interaction purposes and mainly made for mankind. Animals have always (and probably will always) take a backseat. That's the way of the world. Good luck changing that. Peace...out!

JadeLogan21
JadeLogan21

@xoyxoy @Ticked Off Tilly @JadeLogan21  When herbivours eat plants and some insects die to to that it is natural. Thats normal, not where its been killed of by poison, loss of habitat, culling, etc. I know all about the circle of life and I accept that. Zoo's in my opinion is the same a slavery, especially when they are used for entertainment, such as killer whales and dolphins. Just because something is legal does not mean it is moral or that is should be happening. Like the dolphins at the cove. It is 'tradition' and legal for the Japanese but its not moral. The same as someone recording the beeping at a crossing and then playing the recording to a blind woman wanting to cross the road to she gets hit by a car. Its not illegal for someone to record the beeping and play it to someone at a road but its immoral. Same goes with this giraffe being killed. 

xoyxoy
xoyxoy

@JadeLogan21 @xoyxoy  "Like it or not, if majority of people vote for something, whether a law to be changed, who becomes president or prime minister, etc how is that bullying?" -- If you cannot figure out how that is not a faction of bullying, I have no response to you. Read [The Liberal Mind] and perhaps that may enlighten you on your just above statement. Nevertheless, raise your voice high, that is the purpose of free will, but be mindful, the laws of "institutions" are not in your favor (in this particular case).

xoyxoy
xoyxoy

@Ticked Off Tilly @xoyxoy @JadeLogan21  The very fact that you claim you are vegetarian, have you ever considered how many thousands of small critters are being killed (some to extinction) because of the very plants herbivores eat? The fact that much land must be cultivated (endangering many small animals sanctuaries), on top of the fact that certain amounts of pesticides, herbicides, insecticides (killing many bees) and fungicides are also spreading chaos in the insect world (and the ecology in general), destroying our water supplies, etc. These small critters have every bit a chance to exist and survive but the extermination and/or reduction of their places of refuge seem to be an unmindful status to many vegetarians. Humans have always played 'god". Humans have strived to be like "god" but that's another topic altogether. The reason anything "institution" exists or are created is for the benefit of the "creators', just like a business. There are rules that protect both interests and it is apparently deemed that the interest of that animal was not vested (for scientific reasons, or otherwise) with the practice of that institution. An animal, whether a pet or captive species, is the possession of the holder. Unlike, SLAVERY was, humans, do not possess other humans in good conscience. In the biological nature of natural sciences of living organisms, animals will always be second class. Humans make decisions that's what why our brains have evolved in the kingdom of "wild animals". It's really that simple. How humans conduct themselves is a matter of law and order. The problem you are so perhaps seeking to address is a political one, not ecological.

JadeLogan21
JadeLogan21

@xoyxoy @JadeLogan21  How is majority rule bullying? Its like voting. Like it or not, if majority of people vote for something, whether a law to be changed, who becomes president or prime minister, etc how is that bullying? This is a news forum about a giraffe and how the zoo did wrong to kill it. How have any of us bullying anyone? I am not being aggressive or insulting anyone, just stating my opinion. You have to be passionate about what you do and what you want to change in the world otherwise nothing will happen. Same as yo need motivation. I am not saying majority is the sole reason for laws changing, but it is an important one. The laws and politics are supposed to be there for the people in the world, not so a group of people can do what ever they want. By stating that we should be caring more about humans and human babies more than a giraffe you retrying to enforce you belief on us. Your telling us that the giraffe doesnt deserve the attention it is getting. What harm are we doing by caring about this giraffe and being upset with the zoo system in place? Please tell me how we are all being offensive and bullying? Because I see none. We are all entitled to our opinion but not once have I insulted anyone. My line of thinking may be passionate but it is also factual and practical.

Ticked Off Tilly
Ticked Off Tilly

@xoyxoy @JadeLogan21No, the world is outraged by the lack of morality.  The Copenhagen Zoo bred this giraffe, so they knew his genetic make-up in advance.  He was useful to the zoo - i.e. as a money-making attraction - when he was a cute baby.  As he reached sexual maturity, his genetics were deemed 'uninteresting.'  So he was slaughtered, despite there being a valid place for him with a herd of other 'bachelor' giraffes at a sanctuary in the U.K.  And please don't start with the relative value of a giraffe versus cows and sheep... I am vegetarian so that argument is invalid in my world.  Zoos exist to entertain the public, and make money.  Period.  Citing laws and lofty ideals do not wash when morality is lacking.  But then, that's what happens when we humans play God. 

xoyxoy
xoyxoy

@JadeLogan21 @xoyxoy  Thanks for regurgitating the story, it makes more sense when you point it out. If you believe the majority is the sole reason we should do anything, then it is YOU that is that problem along with the majority. Majority rule is a form of bullying and is the very reason democracies are/have been destroyed. Your line of thinking is a passionate one and doesn't work in practicality. But, as I said before, you are entitled to your opinions. I am NOT in any way, shape or form enforcing (trying to enforce) my belief in any manner. As a society we make laws that govern many aspects of the human condition. Without laws there wouldn't be many humans around either. Since you are liking to FACTS, do the diligence in the matters you protest about then get back to me. In the meantime I am just passing through while observing the chaos. Have a nice day!

JadeLogan21
JadeLogan21

@xoyxoy @JadeLogan21  1 major way laws are changed are by the public, so if we want laws to be changed and the standards to be changed then there needs to be an outcry. Obviously the laws around zoo's needs to be changed so things like this do not happen again and due to a major public outcry its not just me and a few others wanting this to be changed. We have the right to be passionate about this and to try and change it. Who says we can only care about 1 or 2 things. I care about the homeless, abused children, rape victims, animal abuse, endangered animals, the system and laws around animals being slaughtered, etc. There is a difference between natural extinction, where animal die out because of nature and being unable to cope the changes, and unnatural extinction, where animals are killed for sport, fur, ivory, over-hunting, etc. We are only the apex predator due to us having guns and knives. If we didn't then we will be one of the bottom. End of the day, this giraffe had no need to die when he had 2 home offers (1 at a zoo) and when they could have gelded him. Think what you want to think but do not try and tell us what we should care about and what we should believe in. Your type of thinking are the reasons why such problems exist. You can only do so much good and end up doing wrong if you only care about humans. We can't live without animals and plants, whereas the world will survive and probably do better without us. Fact!

UPDATE: Marius The Giraffe Was Executed By Copenhagen Zoo

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