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Since Michael Brown was shot and killed on August 9th, his parents have plead the public for evidence to help prove their son was murdered in cold blood.

One woman has stepped forward with video footage that shows the 18-year-old’s lifeless body laying in the street as Officer Darren Wilson — the cop who shot him — anxiously paces back and forth.

Piaget Crenshaw lives in an apartment overlooking the street in Ferguson where Brown was killed, and she says the police have had her footage since they confiscated her phone following the shooting.

Crenshaw admits that she filmed the scene because, from the beginning, she felt like something was off about the situation. “From it all initially happening, I knew this was not right. I knew the police shouldn’t have been chasing this boy and firing at the same time. And the fact he got shot in his face, something clicked in me and I thought someone else should see this so I recorded,” she told CNN.

An autopsy report has confirmed that Brown was shot at least six times, including in the face.

According to Crenshaw, it appeared that the officer was trying to pull the teen into his car when Brown got away. The officer then fired his weapon multiple times.

And Crenshaw’s footage isn’t the only incriminating evidence against Wilson. @TheePharoah reportedly lives on the street where the shooting took place. His series of posts, coupled with Crenshaw’s video could prove the cop fired out of malice, rather than self-defense, as Brown was running when the officer fired.

What appears to be Michael Brown’s body in the street:

The most crucial evidence is the following Tweet:

His admittance to being a witness could make him liable to testify:

A photo of the officer with an assault rifle:

Although @TheePharoah asked media not to contact him, the information he provided could not only be considered crucial evidence, but further proof that social media is changing the way the news unfolds.

Officer Wilson is currently on paid administrative leave, pending the outcome of the investigation.

UPDATE: In spite of the evidence mounting against him, Officer Wilson is a free man. A jury decided, Monday, that “no probable cause exists to file any charge against Officer Wilson.” Click here to read more about the ruling.

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145 comments
Theo_00
Theo_00

There is no delineation of 'armed' versus 'unarmed' when considering the use of deadly force other than the threat itself. For almost every police department in America, the "Use of deadly force" is granted to police officers when the person or persons in question are believed to be an imminent danger to people around them. There is no clear definition of how said danger may be represented. It is solely at the discretion of the officers presented with the danger. Law enforcement 'experts' frequently say the legal standard, established by two Supreme Court rulings from the 1980s (heavily weighted by Ginsburg, Breyer and the ACLU), has made it hard for prosecutors to obtain convictions in cases of alleged use of excessive force. As a result of these court decisions, deadly force is justified if the officer reasonably believed at that moment that he or others were in imminent danger, and it doesn’t matter whether any danger actually existed!

Additionally, police officers are automatically authorized, based on training in most states, including Missouri, to use deadly force if a suspect tries to grab the officer’s gun. Wilson has told investigators that Brown tried to get his gun during a scuffle in which Brown was reaching into Wilson’s patrol car.

KeithSmithem
KeithSmithem

Clearly, it can be seen that this isn't Mike Brown but EVEN if it was it does NOT justify a cop killing an unarmed man

KeithSmithem
KeithSmithem

What is so pathic is the fact so many "faceless" people posting racist comments while hiding behind the internet

QtheKid
QtheKid

How is any of this racial profiling. Michael Brown is pretty easy to describe  and pick out. He was absolutely massive. There is no way you would confuse him for any other black male unless he was standing beside ever offensive linemen in the NFL of African descent. Watch the video of him stomping and robbing and old man. Also why the hell would the officer try and pull someone into his car through his window? First of all with Michael Brown being over 300 pounds it would be physically impossible for him to fit in a office window let a lone a car window. That is easily the dumbest excuse and explanation i have ever heard in regard to Brown's reason to flee. Clearly he did something that made the officer feel threatened and react the way he did.This is was not cause by racism, it was caused by stupidity and a blurred sense of reality on what is acceptable and what isn't.  

cliffordhit2
cliffordhit2

I dont like you as well. Its people like you that want to wear a badge so you can oppress blacks with your agenda, but cant face them without a badge. COWARD!

tabithaloosy
tabithaloosy

So this lady is allowed to draw conclusions about officer wilson from this video, but god dam if we draw inferences about mike brown being a thug from his photos of him looking like a thug.  When protecting your life from a thug sometimes the thug has to die.


MASON666
MASON666

Again fuck Mike Brown and that dumb ass whole Eric garner that peddling street fool was arrested 32 times probably for the same shit, and he still kept doing it talk about brain dead lol what a freak show you n----s are putting on but it wont work see if you don't commit the crime you wont do the time ass wholes anybody who resists arrest could meet the same fate as mike brown, and eric garner anybody no matter what color so stop the bitching, what we need is for Barack to go back to his roots in Kenya with his father who wanted nothing to do with him, it is his white heritage that made him not the black side he should be gone he truly is a race  fuck trouble maker I wonder if he would do this if his white mother was alive probably not make no mistake about it there will never be a black or should I say Biracial president again you ass wholes can bet on it watch oh stay out of Staten Island with you're fucking  protesting regarding those two thugs.

MASON666
MASON666

Fuck Mike Brown he was a punk fuck that got what he deserved you want to play you pay fuck him oh by the way did his mama pay for those cigars the NIGGER stole before he got shot NOWT HES ROBBING AND OLD MAN FOR HIS BACK PACK SURE STRIKES A BELL SEEMS THAT IS WHAT HE KNOWS BEST, AND OH BY THE WAY THE MAN HES ROBBING IS BLACK AL SHARPTON WHERE ARE YOU NOW WHEN BLACKS KILL OR ROB BLACKS YOU PIG RACIST FUCK REMEMBER TAWANA BRAWLEY I DO FUCK YOU TO WHITE POWER WILL ALWAYS BE............

vashelle
vashelle

that is so wrong that they shot MIKE BROWN

for nothing and he didn't even do anything to anyboby that why we need to all come together as on and do our respects to each other stop killing each other FIGHT THE POWER

MaxwellEvans
MaxwellEvans

I like how she kept saying he shot Brown in the face, when both autopsies NEVER showed evidence of that. He was shot on the top of the head, NOT the face. Stupid bitch is lying through her teeth.

crogersedu
crogersedu

"Although @TheePharoah asked media not to contact him, the information he provided could not only be considered crucial evidence, but further proof that social media is changing the way the news unfolds."

Yep, misinformation and bullshit spreads much faster now.

ChuckRaymond
ChuckRaymond

How about not showing defiance when a cop tells you to hit the sidewalk instead of walking down the middle of the street?  Strutting up to the patrol car arrogantly was a good move, in your opinion?



On another subject: Before we use cops as whipping boys for being racist, and see all those videos of cops gone wild, with the editing out of the events leading up to the scene, let's not forget this nation's history being embroiled with its violent civil rights movements where a federal government had to step in and force feed democracy to those unwilling to be color blind. When federal marshals had to escort black children to integrated schools. Racism is that hidden grain glossed over with a coat of veneer to look shiny and pretty. Len Levitt, a journalist and writer who has followed the NYPD closely for more than 15 years, commented to the HPR, “I don’t think their [the police officers’] stereotypes are much different from everyone else’s.” In other words, the police are just like the rest of Americans—embroiled in a past fraught with racial tension.


And it is a byproduct of poverty, which this nation has failed to remedy, made even worse by off shoring manufacturing jobs that, in my youth, gave dignity and spending money to the disadvantaged. I remember the times when many minorities worked in union factories. Times when a black youth who failed to complete high school could make more than a teacher after two years in a manufacturing job. I'll leave it up to the reader to research what political party had more of a hand in removing a vital organ from the body of America. Poverty breeds violence. Unfortunately, minorities live in these poor, crime ridden areas and excuse me if I cut the cops some slack as they are thrust into these battlefields, while we are sleeping safe at home, facing ever more defiance and not knowing when or where that bullet or knife blade will detour them from the wife's pot roast awaiting them at home.

And, yes, you may be innocently targeted by mistake when a radio call describes your features as a possible suspect to that cop now approaching your car. Pulling out a cell phone for recording purposes and acting indignant just may get you lumped up. You ain't home any more, sunshine, you in the jungle, baby. Learn better survival skills in the wild and lead with empathy, not defiance toward that uniform coming up on you that doesn't know you are coming from a tanning salon to pick up Susie at ballet. He might have had to hold his partner's intestines back to keep them from spilling out on the ground after a shotgun blast came from a Prius that looked like yours.

MurrayPoole
MurrayPoole

This is America, since day 1, minorities in this country have been treated differently than the majority (white people) the only things that has changed is time. the distrust and hatred of police dont come from our generation, it comes from hundreds of years of the same treatment from the government, police or any other power structure in america, its 2014 we talkin bout Mike Brown, just got done talkin bout Trayvon Martin 2012, Sean Bell 2006 unarmed shot 41 times, '93 it was 6- 8 minute video of several law enforcement officers beating the shit out of an unarmed Rodney King, they went to trial and the jury said they had every right to do what they did to that man, Emmett Till 1955, i can keep going back until the first day the Europeans arrived in this country until today, and what has really changed in the treatment of minorities by the people who are supposed to protect us, our government and law enforcement? Stop and Frisk in NYC is clearly targeting Minorities THAT IS CLEAR AS DAY, me personally i think the only way it can be fixed is if black police officers police black neighborhoods, the same with all areas, Asian officers, Latin officers, because i think the level of understanding and respect would be higher, it wont be perfect but it would be better. for whatever reason it seems not everyone but as a whole white people fear black people, for example the way the white people on twitter went crazy after the sf vs sea nfc title game and Richard Sherman did a 30 second interview with Erin Andrews and white america actually thought Erin Andrews was in danger that is so confusing, cuz i can pretty much guarantee any black person watching that interview, that thought never crossed their mind, NEVER, i had to go back and watch again cuz i thought i missed something, it wasn't a few white people who reacted to that it was MILLIONS, that to me is extremely telling of how white people view us, so when u have an 98% white police force patrolling a majority minority community u are going to have lot of distrust misunderstanding and problems, white america said it was ok for Emmett Till to die for whistling at a white woman, they said it was ok for 8 white cops to beat Rodney King for several minutes while he was on the ground unarmed, it was ok to shoot Sean Bell 41 times while he was unarmed, they said it was ok for Zimmerman to stalk an unarmed black teen leave his vehicle confront the unarmed teen and shoot him, Now they just justified a police officer lettin off 10 rounds at an unarmed man with his hands up, those are just a few examples of thousands over the years. People wanna try to blame black people for how they act and how they dress, but i know for a fact we dont act or dress the same as they did in the 20's, 30's 40's 50's 60's 70's 80's even the 90's, THE POLICE ATTACKED MARTIN LUTHER KING HIS PANTS WASNT SAGGIN HE DIDNT HAVE BAGGY CLOTHES, HE WASNT A LOUD MILITANT, HE DIDNT HAVE ANY WEAPONS HE WAS MARCHING WALKING PROTESTIN PEACEFULLY AND THEY WERE ATTACKED AND BEATEN BY LAW ENFORCEMENT. YALL NEED TO STOP TRYNA MAKE IT THE BLACK MANS FAULT, BECAUSE THROUGHOUT OUR HISTORY IN AMERICA, NO MATTER WHAT WE DO, HOW WE DRESS, HOW WE TALK, WHAT WE LOOK LIKE, IF WE ARE PEACEFUL OR VIOLENT, THEY ALWAYS FIND FAULT WITH US. just like they saying now it was mike browns fault he was killed by a police officer.
~H. GUEVARA

aldorini
aldorini

Well said Brady...now the media should broadcast this on every news station, so idiots like Brown think twice before going out robbing stores, raising their hands on store owners trying to put bread on the table, and disrespecting the law. Very simple.

aldorini
aldorini

Well said Brady...now the media should broadcast this on every news station, so idiots like Brown think twice before going out robbing stores, raising their hands on store owners trying to put bread on the table, and disrespecting the law.

TheAlexTDB
TheAlexTDB

What I find strange is that the townspeople would attempt to burn... Their own town! That is ridiculous, because now where is everyone going to shop and do other things in your own town?! I think the only people who would do that are people out of state AND out of country, a huge portion of immigrants are young men, where are they all going? Resident Obuma is bringing them in for caose, not out of pity.

yul von braun
yul von braun

Do deadmen all have the same skin?

Would white people burn the town if a black police officer  had shot a white bully under the same    circumstances ?

 




cliffordhit2
cliffordhit2

If the officer believes that they are in imminent danger it is protected by law. If the officer does not believe they are in imminent danger but said that they were in danger it is still law protected. If a suspect in question is said that they reached for the officer gun even though they did not the officer is still protected by law based on their own statement. If the officer draws his own weapon like Wilson did and tries to use it legally or illegally and the suspect tr ies to prevent their own demise by blocking the gun, the officer can still say the suspect tried to get their gun. So now we have a officer who takes the law in his own hand and wittingly divert criminal intent to the suspect knowing that his word is binding and authoritative and not the suspect. Last of all Wilson initiated the confrontation at the vehicle not by brown reaching into the vehicle but by trying to pull brown into the open window out of pure disrespect for brown knowing he would not fit. The law still being blind can only protect those who are in control of its branches whether they are evil or good. In most cases the law turns the other cheek to over zealous officers rendering them not at fault. Now we have body cams and greater accountability they will not be so quick to lie or break the law.

cliffordhit2
cliffordhit2

We know that Brown couldn't fit through the window. That's not whats important. Whats important is that Wilson was in charge just like the plantation owners were in charge of their plantation which included the slaves. This includes the biggest negro slaves they had. Two men having sex will not impregnate the other. When men do this in prison they disrespect the other man by raping him. Wilson disrespected Brown by grabbing him through the window even though he would not be successful pulling him through there. It was to put fear in Brown of Wilson the cop or lord over especially black men. Pulling Brown threw the window in a attempt was strictly symbolic. The message is this when a white man ask, tell or commands you to do something you do it or face the consequences. Too many cases all over this country of bringing charges against black people who have committed no crime. Wilson never stopped Brown because of the convenient store in case you didn't know. Secondly the store owner never called to report a robbery as you say happened. The whole story about the robbery has never been throughly investigated.

oldbat89
oldbat89

@tabithaloosy What you see and hear  first hand is entirely different than hearing it from a second or third party.  Asshole!

oldbat89
oldbat89

@MASON666 I heard that you were conceived anally with the combination of feces and sperm running down your momma's leg barely missing the toilet.  No wonder that you're full of shit?  BTW,  you just proved the the point that where you live IS a garbage dump.

donskodo
donskodo

@MASON666 DUMB ASS MOTHERFUCKING RACIST THAT'S WHAT YOU ARE, YOU MAKING FOOLISH EXCUSES ABOUT WHAT HE STOLE IN THE STORE,BLOODY WHITES STORE ROBBERS,CRIMINALS,DRUG LORDS,WHORES AND KILLERS ARE MORE THAN BLACK AND YET THEY GET AWAY WITH IT.... NOW YOU COME ON HERE TO TYPE SOME DUMB SHIT ASIF YOU DONT THINK BEFORE YOU TYPE OR EXPRESS YOURSELF... YOU GO ON AHEAD AND KILL TOO AS YOUR FELLOW BROTHERS DO... PRICK...

MikeZeeman
MikeZeeman

@vashelle he didn't rob a store? we have the video evidence of that. he didn't assault the officer and grab his gun? oh right we have eyewitness and forensic evidence proving he DID. sorry ass thug from a sorry ass culture. 

donskodo
donskodo

@MaxwellEvans you one dumb ass nigga,she said in the face because she was at a distance and you dick head should not expect her to have seen the exact point of entry FOOL....

ShrutiPandey
ShrutiPandey

@ChuckRaymond  Agree with much of what you said. However the point still remains whether Brown was running away from the officer (in which case he was not threatening to rip off anyone's intestines). And your advice to the traumatized young lady could have been framed in a less mocking tone . I wonder how many times in the wild have you seen an officer shooting someone unarmed ? 

Theo_00
Theo_00

@MurrayPoole The facts always seem to find their way. Rodney King's high speed chase and subsequent abuse by officers occurred in 1991, not in 1993.  The riots in LA occurred in 1992. There were five (5) officers involved in said abuse with two (2) officers found guilty in federal district court and imprisoned. The misunderstanding that many in our society don't seem to grasp is that our 'system' makes no guarantee of justice, but does guarantee due process. No system is perfect, we can do better, but we cannot guarantee that justice will be served in every case regardless of race, age, sex, etc...

TheAlexTDB
TheAlexTDB

@MurrayPoole Hey I totally get where you come from. I don't care who's white and who's black, I just want justice done. From what evidence we have I came to the conclusion that the officer was innocent. I'm not trying to argue with you, I'm trying to make a point why all this is happening. There's a group of people who are trying to tear America apart inside out, how better to do that then cause division between the people? They had to choose a class of people to use as a type of division tool, and decided to use the black community because of racism. We need to stick together and stop pointing fingers at each other, I'm talking to whites too. And as proof I see for this is that there are cases of black officers shooting innocent white people, but the social media never talks about them... Because the 'elite' group only wants to use black people to stirr up stuff. WE NEED TO STICK TOGETHER AND THINK OUR WAY THROUGH THIS, TALKING TO BLACKS AND WHITES HERE.

budwhite52
budwhite52

@yul von braun Why would they need to?  I guarantee that the officer would go through the criminal justice system and be convicted.  Why riot when you KNOW that your "justice" is going to be served?  Now in the past, white people have burned towns just because, you know, those blacks living in it were too uppity.  Or looked at a white woman the wrong way or something.

paulie446
paulie446

@yul von braun  Good point!  The answer to your question is a resounding NO.  White people would NOT and DO NOT act this way.  It doesn't mean that white people are better than black people, it just means that black people as a whole have a tendency to get emotional and act on those emotions.  Sometimes even despite facts or logic.  Obviously this isn't true for all black people, because everyone is different, but I've found it to be true for most black people.  Just like "white men can't jump".  It's not a racist statement, and it is true for the majority of white people (but not all white people, because everyone is different).  Although...now that I think about it....it DOES kind of mean that white people "who don't loot, burn, riot, and assault members of their own community because we're upset about a COMPLETELY DIFFERENT subject altogether" ARE kind of better than THOSE who do.

CWPOST12
CWPOST12

You apparently don't know your own history. White people have been killing blacks for years half the time it goes to trial and they are acquitted. Look at the southern cases. Other times they are not even charged. So there has been so much dirt committed by white men against black men and the legal system is wiggled threw to find them not guilty even after they have already confessed. Now if a black man retaliates and kills one white person historically the white people will find him and lynch him then burn him and his family. O.J. Simpson is one black man acquitted on murder of two white people. You guys have a history of being acquitted of killing blacks for centuries. Don't forget burning their homes and killing their other family members. It is said that you judge these black people without looking at your own history and treatment of black people in this country. Do you live in the U.S.

tabithaloosy
tabithaloosy

@donskodo @MASON666 White people get shot and killed by police too. Protest against police brutality happened in Albuquerque last winter. A lot of those victims unarmed white people.  All people are victims.  Racism still exists because black people keep throwing the race card.  Its time excuses stop being made and thugs are held accountable for their actions.

MASON666
MASON666

@donskodo WHY DON'T YOU GO EAT A BANANA YOU MONKEY...FIRST OFF IF YOU WERE SMART YOU WOULD REALIZE THAT YES EVERY RACE COMMITS CRIME, BUT CHECK OUT THE PRISON SYSTEM FOOL.  AND STOP BLAMING EVERYTHING ON THE WHITE MAN, LOOK AT OPRAH SHE MADE GOOD FOR HERSELF, YOU CAN DO ANYTHING YOU WANT TO DO BUT INSTEAD YOU PEOPLE SUCK OFF THE WELFARE SYSTEM AND HAVE KID AFTER KID EXPECTING EVERYONE ELSE TO FOOT THE BILL.  SLAVERY ENDED OVER 150 YEARS AGO GET YOUR SHIT TOGETHER

Theo_00
Theo_00

@donskodo @MaxwellEvans The author clearly states "An autopsy report has confirmed that Brown was shot at least six times, including in the face", which to @donskodo's point, was a fallacy.  These types of fallacy propagate anger and hate and the promoters should be held accountable. Similar to screaming FIRE in a crowded venue...sparking dangerous behavior.

NelsonNolan
NelsonNolan

@ShrutiPandey @ChuckRaymond  The facts only remains that only brain dead moron's can't see the truth because they don't have the brain cells to do so. No matter what you say, no matter what you do, the facts will always remain that Officer Darren Wilson only defended himself regardless of what you or anyone else has to say when it comes to the "Unarmed" bullshit. If you believe that Officer Darren Wilson is guilty of murder with all the evidence clearly showing otherwise you are a low-life scumbag and need to be locked up yourself.


With the following facts, if you still have the nerve to even try to say that Michael Brown was the victim here, you are completely brain dead and there is no hope for you at all.


First Fact: Michael Brown had just strong arm robbed a convenience store 7 minutes before his contact with Officer Wilson. You can clearly see that Michael Brown leaves the convenience store at 11:54 AM, Officer Wilson made contact with Dorian Johnson & Michael Brown at 12:01 PM. At this point Michael Brown is already a criminal and had just committed a crime.


Second Fact: For those that say that Michael Brown paid for the cigars and didn't rob the store, I hate to burst your bubble but several months ago Dorian Johnson's attorney stated that Dorian Johnson did admit to the St. Louis County Police, FBI, & The Department of Justice (DOJ) that Michael Brown and himself didn't pay for the cigars.


http://www.ksdk.com/story/news/local/2014/08/15/attorney-dorian-johnson-michael-brown-robbery/14118769/ 


http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/darren-wilson-identified-killed-18-year-old-michael-brown-article-1.1904539 



Third Fact: Michael Brown assaulted Officer Darren Wilson in his Patrol Vehicle in which he was now looking at a felony assault on a Police Officer on top of the robbery. In the assault Michael Brown grabbed Officer Wilson's gun, forcefully pointed the gun at Officer Wilson, then tried to get his finger into the trigger guard so that he could pull the trigger and shoot Officer Wilson. That there makes him guilty of a violent felony called "Attempted Murder". Knowing that he was looking at years in jail (Minimum of 25 years in prison), he chose the pussy way out, he charged at Officer Wilson with all intent of making the Officer shoot and kill him because he didn't want to sit in jail for years on end. We do know that Michael Brown did assault Officer Wilson in his patrol vehicle as stated when Dorian Johnson again changed his statements as the forensics showed the truth.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsdjNhlvzHk



Fourth Fact: He was "Unarmed", that's the excuse a lot of people are using, if Michael Brown was 5 foot 10 inches or shorter and weighed less than 200 pounds, he would be considered "Unarmed", however at 6 Feet 5 Inches Tall, 292 pounds, Michael Brown was a deadly weapon without a weapon and imposed a deadly threat based on his size and the damage he was capable of doing without a weapon. Don't believe me, go have a 6 foot 5 inch 292 pound guy punch you in the face just a couple times and see if you're still standing because Michael Brown punched Officer Wilson in the face multiple times. So don't cry the "Unarmed" bullshit because it means nothing.


Fifth Fact: Officer Wilson's statement along with witnesses who stated exactly the same thing that Officer Wilson did haven't changed their statements since day 1. Dorian Johnson, Tiffany Mitchell, Piaget Crenshaw, etc... have changed their statements every time the facts show they lied. Officer Wilson hasn't changed his statement because the truth remains the truth and doesn't change no matter what facts and evidence come up. Therefore anyone with a brain can clearly see that the truth is Officer Wilson was only defending himself.


Sixth Fact: All witnesses for Michael Brown's side have had interaction with the New Black Panthers (Pussies) and were coached on what to say by the New Black Pussies. I have the picture evidence of this posted on my page:


http://www.facebook.com/officerdarrenwilsonferguson



Seventh Fact: Officer Wilson is a racist murderer, really? Truth is, if Officer Darren Wilson was a racist murderer Dorian Johnson would not be alive right now period.


Eighth Fact: Michael Brown was shot from behind and was surrendering when Officer Wilson shot him. All 3 autopsies clearly showed that Michael Brown was never shot from behind and that all the bullets were shot at him from the front as he was running at Officer Wilson. If Michael Brown wasn't running at Officer Wilson, why did his body slide across the pavement in which his cheek slid across the ground? Because he was running at Officer Wilson and when Officer Wilson fired the fatal shot right as Michael Brown leaned down to tackle him, his body slid from the force of him running so fast, and being as big as he was.


   The facts are the facts, Officer Darren Wilson only defended himself, color had nothing to do with it period, whether Michael Brown was white, black, blue, green, brown, or red didn't matter he'd still be dead right now because of what he did putting the Officer in fear of his life. Anyone with a brain can see the truth because it's presented clearer than daylight, anyone dumb enough to still say that Officer Wilson is guilty of murder, racism, etc... is brain dead. Only gangsters, criminals, and brain dead morons at this point still say Officer Wilson is guilty even though the facts which are more real than any statement ever show clearly that he's innocent. Smoke another crack rock and believe in your make belief fairy tails, however in the end you have to answer to God for your judgment's and Officer Wilson didn't do anything that any other innocent victim wouldn't have done in that situation.

CWPOST12
CWPOST12

I have seen officers pick and harass black citizens including myself frequently, but I have never seen them shoot although in my community I was near the vacinty where a officer killed a unarmed black youth.

CWPOST12
CWPOST12

We don't have to argue. The evidence does not show that Wilson was innocent. The prosecutor chose to challenge evidence that was in opposition to Darren Wilson's testimony. The whole grand jury process was done illegally and selectively to bring no indictment. Wilson's face showing some redness or superficial bruise does not prove that he was attacked. It only shows that there was a scuffle in which he could have started the whole thing. The gun powder residue on Browns hand does prove he was trying to unlawfully take Wilson's gun. It only proves he had contact with the gun. He could get contact with the gun if Wilson draws his own gun and attempts to shoot Brown for not following his order. Brown had a right to block the weapon from being used against him. Wilson is lying because he drew his gun after trying to grab Brown threw his patrol window opening. The prosecutor and Wilson twisted everything so to make it appear his story was right., but there are too many holes in his testimony. The Feds will get him for civil rights violations. White officers gave been doing this for centuries. I disagree with your statement about black officers killing white people. It does not happen on a regular basis like whites officers killing black men. I would dare to say I have never heard of it. Secondly most black men are locked up. Blacks are only 13% of the population.

yul von braun
yul von braun

I share your point of view.

quiet and sensible demo.

budwhite52
budwhite52

@CWPOST12 Unfortunately, that side of history isn't taught in schools by default so most people don't actually know it.  Therein lies a major root of the problem.  If schools taught this history instead of shying away from it, more whites would know and understand the issues better.  Instead some school systems are trying to change history for example reinterpreting the civil war as not being about slavery at all, but "states' rights."

MASON666
MASON666

@tabithaloosy @donskodo @MASON666 My thoughts exactly, what's right is right. Plenty of whites get killed by cops, they just don't go burning down their own neighborhoods because of it...and stick up for thugs and idolizing someone that just got done robbing a convenience store and a thug who was arrested 31 times for THE SAME CRIME!  He obviously had no respect for the law, and he paid the price for breaking it so many times...those officers did not go there with an 'intent to kill' a black man. 

oldbat89
oldbat89

@MASON666 @donskodo Get to work on your GED. Ditch the crayons and actually try to read something which supports an intellectual argument although there isn't much for you on a preschool level.

oldbat89
oldbat89

@NelsonNolan @ShrutiPandey @ChuckRaymond Facts are based on reliable data not speculative conclusion.  Have Wilson face a trial with a special prosecutor and a defense attorney of his own choice. Then, let a jury decide.  Apparently you lack the cognitive skills to reach any logical conclusion.

CWPOST12
CWPOST12

Your are the one uneducated. Here is why and this goes for the grand jury process as well being very biased. I accidentally typed gave instead of have. You took it as me being uneducated, however you never considered it might be a typo. The letter G is next to the letter H on my key board on this phone. My fonts are very small and the likelihood of missing a letter or typing the wrong letter is more probable. If you were educated you would have read the context of the sentence and that would tell you what I was saying. I guess you never learned that strategy in reading. This is the same judgement the grand jury made on the evidence. Always remember that in psychology you have to control extraneous variables before you can say one thing caused another. If you don't your claims of cause and effect are unreliable. So the results of your conclusions are biased just like the grand jury deliberations.

CWPOST12
CWPOST12

What part did you miss a far as the evidence are you blind or deaf. The cigar situation has nothing to do with Darren stopping Brown. So you don't just murder someone because they are taking cigars or walking in the street or their pants are sagging. This is not a reason to murder. Wilson is definitely not a Christian neither are you. So being a police officer does not mean you are a good person. The all white police department is a stigma of the old south. Police officers specifically harassed and killed black men and woman. What so Christian of that sir. Officers are to uphold the law not make their own. Just because he said he was defending himself does not mean it was true. Wilson initiated the whole situation. Did you know he beat punched a pregnant woman before and was fired from a police department that was shut down because they were racist. After being terminated from the other job he applied to the ferguson department. All cops aren't good just because they are cops. There is good and evil everywhere you go in this life. Wilson needs to be in prison for murder. Now the last time I checked murder is against God. Murder is also a felony crime. That is how you end up in prison not stealing misdemeanor cigars. Darren put himself in the place of God. I can tell you are not a peaceful family man because you have a lot of hate like Wilson has for black people. Maybe one day your heart will be healed and set free from your distortions. Oh the evidence does not prove Wilson was right it only shows that something happen. My the Feds will get him.

TerriMageeHenderson
TerriMageeHenderson

@CWPOST12 you can read the grand jury report yourself. a thug is dead due to his own actions and nothing more and nothing less. this is only about color because others choose to make it so. where is your outrage when white or hispanics get shot by cops? thats right, you have none because justice does not matter to you only color. 

paulie446
paulie446

@budwhite52 @CWPOST12  Actually, the Civil War WAS about states rights to own slaves.  The government wanted to abolish slavery, but the southern states argued it should be up to the states.  THEN CAME THE CIVIL WAR.  "White people have been killing blacks for years", SERIOUSLY?!?!  Blacks have been killing blacks for years too and no school I know of is teaching anyone about THAT!!  THIS is part of the problem....people upset and focusing on every single black person who has been killed and then putting them all in a basket and then labeling the color of the skin and saying it's based on race!!  Ok, CW...if you're serious about this, then do some research and show me ALL the RACIALLY MOTIVATED MURDERS of black people by white people.  Yeah, actually it makes more sense to realize that every SINGLE death has it's own set of circumstances.  I'm not saying that black people have NEVER been killed BECAUSE they are black, I have no doubt that has happened.  There are totally racist white people in the south who actually HAVE killed black people because of their skin.  It's the same argument of "White" cops killing "black" people.  If the issue is poverty, and poverty is the issue behind high rates of crime, then it's possible and LIKELY that a high percentage of criminals in poor areas are selling weed or part of a gang.  NOT ALL, just a high percentage.  ESPECIALLY when black kids who want to go to college decide NOT to join gangs get assaulted and their families are threatened or the gang retaliates some other way.  So you have a certain cross-section of people who are criminals and are black.

Now take the percentage of police officers who are white.  You have to realize that becoming a police officer (especially on the east coast) is a family thing.  Whole entire generations of cops became cops because their fathers, uncles, etc became cops.  So now you have a cross section of cops that are white.  It stands to reason that if deadly force becomes authorized in ANY confrontation, then most the odds are slightly larger (especially in certain cities and even certain areas of certain cities) that it will be a white cop and a black criminal.

THIS DOES NOT MEAN IT IS RACILLY MOTIVATED!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Even though black people across the nation are protesting, rioting, looting, burning down buildings, destroying cop cars, antagonizing cops in the name of race.  This is absolutely ridiculous!!  NOW when a cop sees a group of black people (or even just a random person), there's going to be paranoia that they are going to start some kind of trouble!

And if you're SERIOUS about TEACHING KIDS that whites kill blacks and have done so for years, then you'd have to concede to teaching them about the mentality of young black men today joining gangs, killing each other, killing cops and how black people have a WELL DOCUMENTED HISTORY of violent riots and burning and looting their OWN communities!!

Listen, I'm not a racist.  I grew up in a mostly white area of CA.  I never knew what racism was, never even HEARD of that word until I moved to the north part of town when I was in 7th grade.  All of a sudden I was called white boy and cracker.  I didn't understand why people who didn't know me would say that.  THAT was when I learned what racism was.  So there's just as many minorities who are racist as there are white people who are.  Maybe even more so.  These days black people aren't held back from ANY position in our society.  NOT EVEN PRESIDENT!!  There are black CEO's and black bus drivers.  Just like there are white CEO's and white bus drivers.  So in our society now, racism is horrible and looked at as such.  Anyone who says the "N" word is public outcast and their reputation is completely destroyed.  Because there's more tolerance in our society than ever before.  Even for minorities like gay people.  Same sex marriage is starting to become legal all over the US!  There are still some issues, but anyway.....SOMEHOW IN SPITE OF THE MOST ACCEPTING AND LEAST PREJUDICED SOCIETY IN AMERICA'S HISTORY...black people have it just awful.  They're killed because of their skin (and not because they were criminals who ignored police and their orders), black people are being kept in poverty because of the white man.  Any black man can go as far as any white man in our economic society.  Black people can go to college just as well as a white person.  There are even ALL BLACK COLLEGES!!!!

My only wish is that we as a nation would just call each other Americans and STOP separating each other based on political parties or beliefs or COLOR OF SKIN.  Black people are NOT "African American" to me....they're just American (unless they were actually born in Africa).

There was a program on PBS where a black guy was trying to find his roots and found that his ancestors were WHITE!  So just HOW MUCH can we REALLY separate each other based on our skin?  We need to stop putting lines to divide us, STOP FOCUSING ON PERCEIVED INJUSTICES that don't exist, and instead focus on what we can do to COME TOGETHER.

NathanCJohnson
NathanCJohnson

@CWPOST12 "So you don't just murder someone because they are taking cigars or walking in the street or their pants are sagging. This is not a reason to murder. "


The person you replied to did not say that he was killed for taking cigars. 



"Wilson is definitely not a Christian neither are you."


This is an ad hominem attack.


http://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/ad-hominem


"The all white police department is a stigma of the old south. Police officers specifically harassed and killed black men and woman. What so Christian of that sir."


I don't see why you keep bringing up religion. It's irrelevant. Just because whites of the past did bad things does not mean Wilson shot Brown because of his race.


"Just because he said he was defending himself does not mean it was true. "


That is true. However, witnesses also back up his story. It's not just him saying it 


"Did you know he beat punched a pregnant woman before and was fired from a police department that was shut down because they were racist. After being terminated from the other job he applied to the ferguson department."


Could you possibly provide the name of this police department that you say Wilson was fired from for "beat punching" a pregnant woman? Please don't make wild claims like this without backing them up!


"Murder is also a felony crime. That is how you end up in prison not stealing misdemeanor cigars."


Yes it is, but Darren Wilson did not commit murder. Brown would have still ended up in jail for stealing cigars - misdemeanors usually come with jail sentences.


"I can tell you are not a peaceful family man because you have a lot of hate like Wilson has for black people. Maybe one day your heart will be healed and set free from your distortions."


Yet another ad hominem attack. This doesn't help your argument. 


"Oh the evidence does not prove Wilson was right it only shows that something happen."


Actually, it does. 



Now, can you prove that Wilson shot Brown because of race? I'd love to hear...

John Thomas Austin
John Thomas Austin

Look up the name John Winkler. His death was an outrage as well, to clarify. Lol at you using the "grand jury" defense, which was the reason OJ was acquitted, as I'm sure you remember. Fact is, if Brown was subdued (not to be confused with a rear naked choke), arrested, and/or incarcerated, there would be no upcry. By the way, we know what you mean by "thug". The 4th wall was broken long ago.

CWPOST12
CWPOST12

I think Darren was the true thug here. Just because you have a badge and gun does not make you a good person morally or spiritually. Darren was fired before from a racist operating police department. He also has numerous complaint from minorities on his record. Most police officer will not shoot a white person unless they are armed and they fire at them first. So you are wrong police will not shoot unarmed white men. You know it and I do to. Darren knew he could not have gotten away with killing a white unarmed kid. Black men have a lower systemic value. That does not mean that Darren is right in the eyes of God even though he was not indicted. He still has to answer for taking a life that he did not give life to. He is a murderer. Thug.

budwhite52
budwhite52

@paulie446 @budwhite52 @CWPOST12 Usually I would probably try to ignore a post like yours but I feel like you were arguing in good faith and not trying to be unnecessarily hostile so I'll try.  Firstly, I never said the Civil War wasn't about states rights, it certainly was about the rights of states to own slaves. Any way you look at it, if you take slavery out of the formula, the Civil War doesn't happen.  Secondly, I didn't make the quote about white people killing blacks.  Although it's accurate, by itself it's meaningless.  What I probably would have said is that "white people have historically killed black people and gotten away with it."  I can't possibly show you all the racially motivated crimes in history but just take a look at the history of lynching in America and you will find more than enough.  If not, look at the Emmett Till case.  It was typical of its time.  


As for cops killing people in poor areas, most of what you say is true but no one is protesting the arrests, brutality or killing of these people when caught in a crime, unless, like in Ferguson, there were options besides killing the suspect. Most are protesting incidents like this, Eric Garner, Tamir Rice, Oscar Grant, Amadou Diallo, Rodney King and so many others.  Just go to Youtube, search on one and then look at the huge number of related videos.  If, as you seem to think, black people were protesting EVERY arrest or killing, there would be no time for work.  Black people are far over-represented in prison and for most of them, there were no protests or riots, even for the ones that were innocent.


Next, you mention the riots.  Black people rioting in the US is a relatively recent thing.  Most of the race riots throughout US history have been whites enacting violence on blacks.  And yes, burning, looting and destroying their towns have taken place as well.  The only known coup to take place in the US was during the Wilmington riots of 1898.  Look it up.  Angry whites took over the local government.  Then look up the riots in Florida and Oklahoma where whites destroyed thriving black communities.  I don't expect you to know these things because as I said, it isn't taught but it IS in the books.


As for not knowing what racism is, that's a good thing but you still don't really comprehend it and its effects.  If you think that it's just about being called names, you're very much mistaken.  Systematic racism is much more endemic and damaging than individual racism could ever be.  And no, there are not just as many black racists as white.  Since you said that, let me give you an example.  Let's say 10% of all groups and races are racists.  That means that about 3-4 million black people are racist.  That's because black people comprise about 13% of the US population.  On the other hand, 10% of the white population is about 22 million or so, since whites make up about 75% of the population.  So what you have is a number of racist whites that would equal the majority of the black population as a whole.  So no, there are not as many blacks that are racist.  Furthermore, a white person in this country can pretty much go his or her whole life without contact with a black person if they want to whereas that's not true for most black people.


Yes things have gotten better but they're not where they should be.  Yes, there are black colleges (not ALL black colleges) but they pretty much came about because blacks were not allowed to go to the other colleges.  See, another effect of history.

Finally, another effect of history, yes most black Americans have some white blood.  It never mattered.  Did you know that there used to be a "one-drop" rule in some states?  That meant that if you had any known black heritage, even if it was just one great-great grandparent, you were considered black.  That meant no matter how white you looked, you couldn't get certain jobs or go certain places. Furthermore the idea of race itself is a social construct and not very old.  When people say there's always been racism, they are wrong.  Race basically became a "thing" around the 17 and 18 centuries, in part to justify slavery.  Up until then, yes people have always hated others but more on the basis of religion or class because race had no meaning to them.  And as biologically it has no meaning it would be nice to be able to stop using it.  However that would still not be justice to those who were put at a disadvantage due to race to begin with.  Now as for the "perceived injustices" you have to realize that perception is reality for those who perceive it.  So if you want to know what we can do together, stop telling people that they're imagining things and TRY to see things from their perspective, whether you believe they're right or not.  Once you UNDERSTAND what it is they're saying and stop trying to treat them as if they are somehow crazy, misinformed or otherwise out of touch with their own lives, THEN we can start to make progress.  Otherwise, you basically become part of the problem.

paulie446
paulie446

@CWPOST12  Oh my god.  Darren wasn't fired.  That police department CLOSED PERMANENTLY.  He was laid off because there WAS NO MORE police department.  He also had a PERFECT, SPOTLESS record.

Police shoot people who put their lives or the lives of others in danger.  There isn't a cop I know of who, in a deadly force situation, STOPS to regard the color of skin.

Black men have a lower systemic value??  SYSTEMIC?  What "system" are you talking about??  Our nation's system?  WHERE WE HAVE A BLACK MAN AS PRESIDENT?!?!

Self-defense isn't murder.  God forgives those who ask for forgiveness, even murderers.  Darren Wilson shot a guy who was charging at him (who ALREADY tried to take his gun, who had ALREADY assaulted him), so yeah....Darren Wilson is just fine in the eyes of God.  The person who has to answer is the guy who stole, assaulted a cop, then tried to take his gun, REFUSED to obey a cop, then was shot and killed because of it.

I'm sorry, but the OBVIOUS THUG is the THUG! THE EVIDENCE PROVES HE WAS A THUG!!!!!

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